So apparently we’re entertainers and we have to entertain you so here we go! Every record you make you need to break down the barriers of what it is to write a record and for us this one was we needed something real and honest to write about and some of the period of time we were actually waiting for those experiences to happen you know like writing a song is like catching a dragon from a cave you have to sit there with the net and you have to sit there every single day and most days the dragon doesn’t come out. But sometimes the dragon comes out but you have to be there ready. If you’re not by the cave waiting you can never catch the dragon. The dragon being a song of course. Or the fish where’s the fish? In the sea. At the end of 2016 we stopped touring There were two years quite intense, we were amazingly lucky to be able to go around the world and to play so many great shows to such amazing people and after that we got to about 2016 and I met somebody in LA and I moved there for a little bit and just kind of chasing the girl. Essentially this record is like an autobiographical record. It comes from a much deeper place than the first one. If you think about the first one being you know written in a bedroom most playing GTA it’s very imagining these places and for us this is the real the real thing. There’s a very romanticed idea of what California is for like Europeans English people whether that’s through film or music so when you get out there you probably have expectations but I think with everything like whenever you have expectations of something you will always be disappointed because you’ve already made a decision in your head about what it’s gonna be like. So in life in general for us we’ve learned over the last couple years to go into every situation in life with no expectations and that’s especially when writing your music. I can’t expect expect to make money I expect to be popular I expect people to like your music I can’t expect to get good album reviews because ultimately you’re just going to be living in this whole world of panic and pain if you do that. I think people panic in this day and age when they can’t find out information on someone it’s like oh I love this artist called Kadhja Bonet. She’s an American artist. I heard her voice I listen to her music and I fell in love with it straight away and and then in my head it was like wait, Wikipedia page where is she from how old is she I need all this information and I had to stop myself from doing that because actually what I love about music and about artistry and about having those people who you look up to and idolize you don’t necessarily know anything about that makes there are even more vivid and more visceral and like that I can connect to it more. It’s like when I heard the magic numbers for the first time in my head I had this like incredible vision of this band and what they look like and then when you see wow that’s completely not what I expected and so for us it was we just want our music and our art to be the the first thing that people experience and there are so many artists in this day and age that have an Instagram have a Facebook before they’ve even released any music. Well where’s your focus here? Are you trying to be famous or are you trying to make music? When you make a record you sort of I suppose we had to learn how to do it allover again. It could just been the same sort of things that we did on the first record so there was an element of like breaking down your preconceptions of how you think you should make music and then once you’ve done that and got to a place where you’re like oh there was definitely plays where we were like I literally do not have a clue what I’m doing then you kind of build it up again and you learn and like through those learning experiences and making mistakes that’s what you forward your ideas. We don’t know what we’re looking for but when we see it we know that. It’s a spark and you’ve got to be careful when you have a spark you have to like cultivate it and make sure it grows otherwise you can be like put out and it’s got like… Whe you’re starting a fire and you put too much wood on it too early it goes out. Yeah if you get too excited you can either get too excited or not excited enough and it’s like love in a way. When you see someone or you have a feeling when you meet something like oh my god we had a connection that’s what it is with that spark and each song as those sparks and sometimes you… When you meet someone, if you know you know. If you know man, you know.